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By recommended I mean what is the standard for it to be not too long and not too short. I know I should write until I am finished but I want to take practicality into account as well. Mainly when the book spans in a series.

120k? 150k?

Thank you!

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I agree with Shan--while the word limit for fantasy is usually more elastic, you are a debut author, and a huge word count is not going to make for an easy sale.

That said, a lot of the fantasy submissions I see are not long enough. Paranormal and fantasy novels, nine times out of ten, require more world building and exploration than a shorter novel can carry, and readers love a rich new world. The best ones I have seen (and read, as published) are around the 100k mark--sometimes a bit more, sometimes a little less. The trick with structuring a fantasy novel is to weave in the exposition with a very light hand, so it always feels as if the action is moving things along. Joe Abercrombie, while not my thing, is very good at this. In other words--the book might look like a doorstop but it's never a slog of a read. It's an indulgence.

Here is pretty much THE post on word counts from publishing ace the Swivet: http://theswivet.blogspot.com/2008/03/on-word-counts-and-novel-length.html She thinks you can get away with 120k for epic fantasy. Personally, I'd err on the lower side of that, purely because as an untried fantasy author, you're probably prone to waffle (been there, done that, never letting aaaaanybody see that novel, lol). If your betas come back to you and say "more here, please!" then you've got wriggle room.

In summary: the trend for novellas is not fantasy's friend, not unless you're building on an already-established world. Structure your exposition well, keep your plot moving, and aim to cycle through three acts to a sweet spot around 100-120k. If you're good...your editor will take it from there :)

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Have added a link above which may be useful. –  Lucy V. Morgan Oct 17 '11 at 10:53
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Oops...didn't mean to press enter! But dude, your main arc starts ON THE FIRST PAGE. Your main arc is your hook, and your reader wants to know what it is in order to keep turning those pages. World-building and plot should hold hands, should happen together. If you have 60k without that arc, that's 60k which is irrelevant to the story you set out to tell here. –  Lucy V. Morgan Oct 17 '11 at 10:55
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Your main conflict needs to start on the first page too (conflict and arc are similar). 60k is half the total word limit we're talking here--you can't have half a novel before you get to the point of your story :) –  Lucy V. Morgan Oct 17 '11 at 11:00
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Joze: write your first draft. Get it all on paper. Then find a good editor. A ruthless editor. Tell the editor you are not sure what to cut and you need to condense the story to 100K words. Then stand back and let the blue pencil go to work. :) –  Lauren Ipsum Oct 17 '11 at 14:50
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@LaurenIpsum Hey Lauren sorry about answering so late! I decided to just write away and not mind so much about the word count, I think I'll manage to make it 100k. –  Joze Feb 8 '12 at 19:08
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For novels in general, the accepted word count is 70-80,000 words.

For fantasy novels, you are allowed to go slightly above this limit, but unless you are an established author, I don't recommend going too far above. I would limit the book at 100,000 words to be safe.

That said, I usually find it hard to even reach the lower limit, and looking at the large amount of fluff in many books, I'm guessing so do other authors :)

In the comments to one of the other answers here(can't remember which one), many people noted they would happily pay for a novella, just to avoid all the unnecessary padding and fluff. Keep this in mind when writing - one of the risks with a huge book is, unless it is truly great, most people will just ignore it.

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I am wondering mainly because I am already 60k and not close to finishing so it is sort of a bad sign... –  Joze Oct 17 '11 at 10:48
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@Joze How not close are you? If you're at 60k and you're less than 10% of the way through, I'd look at ways of creating multiple self contained arcs which would work for a trilogy. IF you're almost half way done, you shouldn't be worrying too much. –  Chris Kinniburgh Oct 17 '11 at 15:04
    
Well yes I am sorta half way done on the first book (the first main story arc) So in your opinion it is ok... –  Joze Oct 26 '11 at 9:03
    
I know I'm coming to this question late, but it's worth noting that it's quite possible (and usually desirable) to trim 20% or more from the length of a novel during editing. –  Jules Dec 17 '13 at 2:05
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